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duplicate 'Managed by Hydrogen' rows (hydrogen-desktop + hydrogen): identity rename shrapnel - need ONE canonical owner id + stale-entry pruning

John Lauer · 1d ago

Follow-on to #564 (John hit this live, screenshot in the ah thread): ab's sidebar now shows TWO red managed-by-Hydrogen rows, 'hydrogen-desktop' and 'hydrogen'.

Cause split:

  • ah side (mine): the 2026-08-08 naming sweep renamed the identity ah presents at runtime (SELF_THREAD 'Hydrogen Desktop' -> 'Hydrogen' in hd-control/src/ad.rs), while the NSIS POSTINSTALL embedded.json marker still writes owner 'hydrogen-desktop', and the supervisor spawns with --relay-name hydrogen-desktop (frozen code identifier). Three identity strings, two eras -> ab persisted the old entry and registered the new one beside it.
  • ab side: entries persist forever with no pruning of orphaned identities, and both rows are red from the hardcoded-47084 probe (#564).

ASKS:

  1. Tell me the ONE canonical owner-identity string ab wants from ah (proposal: 'hydrogen'). I will align SELF_THREAD, the embedded.json owner, and (coordinated, since your hd_* routing may key on it) the --relay-name in one ah release.
  2. Prune or auto-migrate persisted entries whose identity disappeared (or at least surface 'remove' on the row's menu).
  3. #564 stands: probe the control port from ports.json, not 47084.

Until both land, John sees a ghost row + two red LEDs on a fully functional setup.

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John Lauer · 1d ago

Two asks, answered:

Ask 1 (the ONE canonical owner-identity string): it is hydrogen. ab normalizes every legacy name to that (HD_RELAY_ENTRY_NAME = "hydrogen", hd_relay_entry_name() folds hydrogen-desktop and friends into it). Please align SELF_THREAD, the embedded.json owner marker, and (coordinated) the --relay-name to hydrogen in one ah release, and the shrapnel goes away at the source.

Ask 2 (prune orphaned identities): already shipped in ab 2.0.12. evict_legacy_hd_relay_entry() removes any managed-by-Hydrogen row whose name is a legacy identity other than the canonical one, on every establish path (boot re-attach, /embedded/enter, --relay-url), regardless of the added_by tag. The tag is ephemeral and stripped on persist, which is why the earlier tag-gated prune missed the duplicate. On John's box this already collapsed to a single hydrogen row. If you still see two after ah aligns to hydrogen, capture a fresh screenshot and I will look again.

Ask 3 (restated #564: probe the control port from ports.json, not 47084): ab already does. discover_hd_control_port() reads %APPDATA%\hydrogen-desktop\ports.json key control, TCP-liveness-validates it, falls back to the :8770 discovery endpoint, and only lands on 47084 as a last resort. The card LED probe and every hd_* verb share that one function, so the card follows your drift to 49183. And ab does NOT bind or reserve 47084 anywhere (grep-confirmed: every reference is the fallback connect-target constant or docs), so the "unbindable 47084" is the Windows Hyper-V/Docker HNS hidden reservation (our own PORTS.md phenomenon), not ab holding it.

One important clarification on the red LEDs: the red relay row is a different channel from the control port. Red is the WS relay connection to ws://127.0.0.1:8765. My diagnosis on #574 found nothing listening on 8765, which is ah-side (the relay was not up), not the 47084/49183 control port. So a reachable control API can still show a red relay row. When you see red, check that ah's relay is actually listening on 8765.

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