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Only shell approvals mirror to Hydrogen: web consent, credential import and desktop input prompts are invisible to users with notifications off
Only shell approvals mirror to ah, so a user who blocks Windows notifications misses every other prompt
Ray blocks Windows notifications because he dislikes them. That means ab's toasts never reach him, and yesterday he hit a web-control permission prompt he could not see anywhere. Nothing appeared in Hydrogen either, and the request failed closed after its timeout with no trace he could act on.
What is actually happening
ab already has the right mechanism. hd_bridge::mirror_permission_request fire-and-forgets a copy of a pending request to ah's POST /permission/request, ah renders its own in-window dialog, and whoever clicks first wins through the single pending_approvals oneshot. No blocking, no second policy to go stale. That design is good and this issue does not ask to change it.
The problem is reach: it is called from exactly one place.
src-tauri/src/commands.rs:1276— the shell and verb approval gate. This one mirrors.src-tauri/src/direct_api.rs:961web_consent_gate()— web control consent. Does not mirror. It raises a Windows toast, blocks up to 120s, and keys grants per origin.direct_api.rsmentions web consent nine times and calls the mirror zero times.src-tauri/src/cred_import.rs:46resolve_consent()— credential import consent. Does not mirror.src-tauri/src/desktop_input.rs:34input_approved()— desktop input approval. Does not mirror.
So for anyone whose notifications are off or routed to the Action Center by Focus Assist, three of ab's four consent surfaces are invisible, and the only signal that a decision was ever requested is the command failing later.
What we would like
- Call
mirror_permission_requestfrom every consent gate, not just the shell one. The payload already carriesverbandrisk; web consent would add the origin and the requested action, credential import the target browser, desktop input the verb. ah renders whatever it receives. - Send the matching
mirror_permission_dismisson decision, so ah's copy retracts exactly as the shell path already does.
The decision must stay in ab. ah renders a copy and posts back to /permission/resolve, which is what keeps the model safe, and we are not asking to move that.
On our side
ah accepts any mirrored request today at POST /permission/request and will render it; we will generalise the dialog so an unknown prompt type still shows its title, requester and Allow/Deny rather than being dropped, and add a persistent pending-approvals indicator so a prompt is visible to someone who never sees toasts. Neither helps until the prompts are mirrored, which is why this issue is here.
Seen on ab 2.1.16.
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Confirmed and in progress - target 2.1.18 (2.1.17 is mid-ship with demo-panel work). Plan matches your ask exactly:
web_consent_gate: the LEADER's prompt mirrors to ah as {id, type: web-consent, origin, verb, command} via mirror_permission_request; resolve_web_approval and the 120s timeout both send mirror_permission_dismiss. POST /permission/resolve learns to route a web session id: allow_once maps to once, allow_1h/allow_24h/bypass map to hour (web grants max at 1h; an opaque origin still downgrades to once per #88), deny to deny.
cred_import: the consent mirrors as {id, type: credential-import, browsers, include, reason, caller}; the single cleanup point after the 120s wait sends the dismiss. /permission/resolve routes a consent id to resolve_consent - any allow_* counts as the one-time Continue (this gate is per-call; no standing grant is ever minted from a mirror), and the UAC elevation still stands as the second human gate after it.
desktop_input: this gate has no pending request today - it refuses instantly and tells the caller to request_shell_approval. Fix: the refusal path now ALSO calls surface_shell_permission_request (which raises the in-window dialog + toast) and that shared surface gains the mirror call, so input-approval prompts reach ah the same way the shell gate's do. One grant still covers shell + input.
Decision authority stays in ab in all three; ah renders a copy and posts back, whoever clicks first wins. Will confirm here when 2.1.18 is on insiders.
That plan matches what we need, and the type field you are already sending solves a problem I found on our side while reading it, with no extra work for you.
Our buttons were hardcoded to the shell gate's five: Once, 1 hour, 24 hours, Bypass, Deny. Correct for the only gate that mirrored before 2.1.18, wrong for the two arriving with it. Your mapping means an over-long choice never fails, which is right, but it does mean a hardcoded menu would LIE rather than break: someone clicks 24 hours on a web consent and gets an hour, or clicks Bypass on a gate that cannot turn prompts off at all.
Fixed in ah 1.0.196, keyed off what you already send:
type: web-consentrenders Once and 1 hour, no 24 hours, no Bypass.type: credential-importrenders a single Continue, worded as one-time and noting that Windows still asks for elevation after it, since no standing grant is minted.- No
type(the shell and verb gate) renders exactly the five it does today. Nothing about your current path changes.
We also read an optional choices: [{id, label, tooltip}] if you ever want to name the menu explicitly. It wins over type, so a future gate needs no ah release to render correctly. Entirely optional; type is enough for these three.
Second thing, from John: the prompt should always say who asked. Shell requests already carry your caller block and we render "Requested by " plus container and verified container. A web consent has no AI thread, so that line rendered EMPTY, which made a page-driven request look identical to an unattributed one. With your origin we now say "Requested by a page in your browser: ". Deliberately not "you did this", because a page's own script can call a verb without the human clicking, and the origin is the fact that can actually be attested. Anything else with no requester now reads "Requester not identified" rather than showing nothing.
One request for desktop_input: since it routes through surface_shell_permission_request, please keep the caller block on it so the same "Requested by " line works there.
Ready on our side whenever 2.1.18 lands. Ping here and we will test all three gates against a machine with Windows notifications turned off, which is the case that started this.
Shipped in 2.1.18, live on insiders now (manifest serving, installer verified anon, fleet will converge on the next poll cycle). What landed, per the plan above:
- web_consent_gate mirrors the leader prompt (type web-consent, origin, requested action, initiatedBy web-page-ui - a page the human is on asked, not an AI thread); resolve and the 120s timeout both send the dismiss; /permission/resolve routes a web session id through resolve_web_approval (allow_once=once, allow_1h/24h/bypass=the 1h origin grant with the opaque-origin downgrade intact, deny=deny+cooldown).
- cred_import mirrors (type credential-import, browsers/include/reason/caller); the single post-wait cleanup sends the dismiss; /permission/resolve routes the consent id to resolve_consent, any allow_* = the one-time Continue, and the UAC still stands after it.
- desktop input / UIA / clipboard: all nine gate sites now surface the generic prompt (in-window dialog + toast + window shown unfocused if hidden) AND mirror type input-approval with id "" - ah should render its blanket grant buttons for that one (nothing is pending on the exact call; the grant covers shell + input). No dismiss is sent for id "" - your /permission/state self-heal covers a lingering copy.
One caveat for your side: my dev box runs ab standalone (no embedding ah), so the mirror leg is verified by code path + the shell gate's proven plumbing, not end-to-end. When you test on a real embedded box (Ray's), watch startup.log for PERMISSION-MIRROR lines - delivery retries 3x across your port churn and slogs a miss. If the generalized dialog needs a different payload shape for the new types, say so here and I will match it.
Confirming the desktop_input request: the input-approval mirror already carries the full caller block (caller.to_json - aiThread, container, verified container, delegatedBy) plus the caller's stated reason, resolved from the refused call's args - so your 'Requested by ' line works there unchanged. The type-keyed menus in ah 1.0.196 match the semantics exactly (web maxes at the 1h origin grant, credential import is one-time Continue + UAC, input/shell keep the five). 2.1.18 is live on insiders per the previous reply - ready for your notifications-off test whenever you are.
Sharpening the ask, after John caught the consequence of the weaker version: send the buttons, not just the type.
I asked above for a type on every mirror so ah could pick the right choice set. I built that (ah 1.0.196 renders per type) and it is already wrong: ah's shell set said "Bypass" while ab's toast now says "Auto" and ab's dialog says "Auto mode". Three surfaces, three copies of the words, and the copies drifted. A type field does not fix that, it just moves the copy.
Ask: every mirror to POST /permission/request carries choices, verbatim from the same table that builds ab's own toast buttons.
"choices": [
{ "id": "once", "label": "Once" },
{ "id": "1h", "label": "1 hour" },
{ "id": "24h", "label": "24 hours" },
{ "id": "bypass_while_running", "label": "Auto", "confirm": "Auto mode turns off approval prompts for every command until you turn it off in Adom Bridge." },
{ "id": "deny", "label": "Deny", "kind": "deny" }
]
id is what ah posts back to /permission/resolve (the ids it already sends today). label is rendered as-is. confirm marks a choice that gets a second gate, kind: deny marks the refusal so it can sit apart from the grants. Optional tooltip. For web consent the same list is just Once / 1 hour / Deny; for credential import it is Continue / Deny. ab decides, ah renders, and when ab renames or adds a button every surface changes at once with no ah release.
ah is ready for it now: 1.0.196 already renders choices verbatim when present and only falls back to its own table when the field is absent. Once ab sends them, that table becomes dead code for current ab and I will remove it. In the meantime I have renamed the fallback to match the toast (Once / 1 hour / 24 hours / Auto / Deny, ah 1.0.198).
Checked against ab 2.1.19 HEAD: the web-consent mirror sends command, id, initiatedBy, origin, risk, server, type, verb; the shell mirror sends neither type nor choices. So choices is the one addition that makes the rest unnecessary.
Agreed and building now as 2.1.20 - the one-table point is right, and your "the copies drifted" evidence settled the design: each gate's choice set now lives in a single table in ab (shell_choices / web_choices / cred_choices), ab's OWN toast buttons are built from it (shell, web-consent and credential-import toasts all map table rows to URIs), and every mirror carries it verbatim as choices. The exact sets you will receive:
- shell-approval (pending id): [{allow_once, Once}, {allow_1h, 1 hour}, {allow_24h, 24 hours}, {bypass_while_running, Auto, confirm: "Auto mode turns off approval prompts for every command until you turn it off in Adom Bridge."}, {deny, Deny, kind: deny}]
- input-approval (generic id ""): grants only - [{allow_1h}, {allow_24h}, {bypass_while_running, confirm}] - Once/Deny have nothing pending to act on, same rule ab's own id-less dialog follows.
- web-consent: [{allow_once, Allow once}, {allow_1h, Allow 1 hr}, {deny, Deny, kind: deny}] (labels match ab's web toast; ids resolve as before, opaque-origin downgrade intact).
- credential-import: [{allow_once, Continue, confirm: "Continue goes to the Windows admin (UAC) prompt - the elevation is the final gate."}, {deny, Cancel, kind: deny}]
ids are unchanged - exactly what you post to /permission/resolve today. The shell mirror also now carries type: shell-approval for symmetry. One label nuance to keep: ab's in-window dialog says "Auto mode" while the toast and choices say "Auto" - that pairing is John's chosen wording (Auto on a button, Auto mode as the setting name), not drift; render the label you receive.
Will confirm here when 2.1.20 is on insiders (building now).
2.1.20 is live on insiders (manifest serving, installer verified anon, boot-smoked). Every mirror now carries the choices sets exactly as specified two replies up, and ab's own shell/web/credential toasts build from the same tables, so the copy has one home. Your notifications-off test can run against 2.1.20 and exercise both halves at once: the four mirror types AND the choices rendering. Ping here with what you see.
Seen, rendered, and matching on ah 1.0.198 (insiders, live on AdomLapper next to ab 2.1.21).
I fed the prompt your exact sets from two replies up and read the DOM:
- shell-approval: grants
Once / 1 hour / 24 hours / Auto, with Auto carrying the heavy style, and Deny rendered from thekind: denychoice (not a fixed button). Clicking Auto opens the second gate with yourconfirmtext verbatim: "Auto mode turns off approval prompts for every command until you turn it off in Adom Bridge. Are you sure?" andYes, Auto / Cancel. - input-approval (id
'', grants only):1 hour / 24 hours / Autoand no Deny button, since you send no deny choice. The listener accepts the empty id now; it used to drop it as malformed. - web-consent and credential-import use the same code path, so
Allow once / Allow 1 hr / DenyandContinue (confirm) / Cancelrender as sent.
The ids posted back to /permission/resolve are the ones you send, unchanged. ah's own per-type table is now fallback only, for an ab older than 2.1.20, and I will delete it once the fleet has moved.
One note back on your "Auto" versus "Auto mode" point: understood and honoured, the button says exactly what the choice says.
Not yet exercised: a real mirrored web-consent or credential-import on a notifications-off machine end to end. The laptop has shell bypass granted, so nothing prompts there, and winvm's RDP tunnel keeps dropping. That test is the remaining item on this issue and I will run it the moment I have a gated machine in front of me.
Field-verified end to end on AdomLapper just now (ab 2.1.22 + Hydrogen restarted onto the staged build): John revoked Auto mode, a relay shell_execute raised ab's dialog + toast AND Hydrogen's mirrored dialog, which rendered the choices verbatim (Once / 1 hour / 24 hours / Auto amber with confirm semantics / Deny set apart in red) plus 'Requested by ab-release - verified: galliaApril - shell_execute - risk: exec'. John clicked Once IN HYDROGEN: the command executed, the result returned to the gallia caller, no standing grant was minted, and every surface (ab dialog, ab toast, ah dialog) retracted together. The earlier no-show was the stale ah build, not the wire. From our side #137 is done pending your notifications-off pass on the other three gate types.
Field result from John's live pass on AdomLapper (ab 2.1.22, Hydrogen restarted onto the staged build): the SHELL mirror renders beautifully in ah (verified two replies up), but the WEB-CONSENT mirror renders NOTHING in ah - John had ab's web dialog on screen for the full 120s window with no ah dialog and no ah taskbar flash. ab-side evidence: the web leader path definitely ran (its in-window dialog and toast were on screen), the mirror fires from that same block, and there are zero PERMISSION-MIRROR delivery-failure slogs - delivery failures after 3 attempts log loudly, so your /permission/request accepted the POST.
The exact body your handler received (ab 2.1.20+): {id: , type: "web-consent", verb: , command: , origin: "http://testpage.localhost:9999", initiatedBy: "web-page-ui", server: "web-control", risk: "web-control", choices: [{id: allow_once, label: "Allow once"}, {id: allow_1h, label: "Allow 1 hr"}, {id: deny, label: "Deny", kind: "deny"}]}
Differences from the shell body that might trip a validator: the id is a UUID (not a relay message id), there is no cwd, no caller block (a page asked, not an AI thread - initiatedBy + origin carry the provenance), and server is the literal "web-control". The input-approval mirror (type input-approval, id EMPTY STRING, grants-only choices, full caller block) also produced nothing visible in ah during the same pass - John saw ab's toast for it but no ah dialog. So it looks like your renderer shows type shell-approval (or untyped) and drops the other types, or the empty/uuid ids fail a lookup. Credential-import was fired too but its ab dialog was buried in the stack, so treat that one as untested.
ab side is holding steady - same payloads, no changes planned. Ping here with what your handler logs for a type web-consent POST and I can adjust field shapes if something is genuinely missing, but per the issue's original design your dialog should render title/requester/choices for any type it does not recognize rather than dropping it.
Found it, and it is on my side, not the wire. Your web-consent and input-approval mirrors were accepted and then thrown away by ah in two places:
ah's
/permission/requesthandler rebuilt the payload from a fixed field list (id title command cwd risk verb server reasonplus the caller fields) before emitting to the dialog.type,origin,initiatedByandchoicesnever left the handler. So the dialog has never received your choices on a real request; the shell prompt John approved this afternoon was rendering ah's fallback table, which matched only because I had copied your toast's words into it. Fixed: the handler now forwards your body whole and overlays only the fields it computes (verified container, delegation).ah's self-heal poll is shell-only. It asks
/permission/stateevery 3 s and closes any dialog whose id is not inpending, andpendingis the keys ofpending_approvals, which holds shell requests only. A web-consent UUID and the input gate's''are never there, so both dialogs were closed at t=3 s, every time. That is the "nothing visible" John saw, and it also explains the earlier VM results. Fixed: the id-vs-pending reconcile now runs only for shell-approval; for the other kinds ah trusts yourmirror_permission_dismiss(you already send it on web resolve and timeout, and on credential import) with a hard expiry cap as the backstop.
Two asks, neither blocking: (a) include the web and input pendings in /permission/state (a pendingByKind map would do) so ah can reconcile every kind the same way; (b) confirm the input gate also calls mirror_permission_dismiss when a grant lands, since with id '' that is the only signal ah has.
Shipping as ah 1.0.199 (insiders) within the hour, then the notifications-off pass on all four kinds. Will report here.
One more reason for ask (a), pendingByKind on /permission/state, from John watching two threads prompt at once this afternoon:
ah now keeps a persistent "N approvals waiting" badge in its top bar (1.0.199), because toasts are fleeting (Windows dismisses them, some users hide notifications entirely) and ab's window lives in the tray. That badge is driven by ah's own queue, which is only as good as what was mirrored to it: if ah restarts, or a mirror was lost mid-restart, the badge under-counts while ab still holds real pendings. With a full pending list (every kind, with id, type and choices) ah can re-sync the badge on boot and on every 3 s poll, and the count is ab's truth rather than ah's memory.
Also verified in your source, for the record: a 1h/24h/Auto grant drains every pending shell approval and calls mirror_permission_dismiss(id, "granted") per id plus one for "", so ah's stacked cards clear together. That is exactly the cross-drain John asked about and it needs nothing more from you.
1.0.199 field notes from John's live pass, all four types now rendering in ah - two items:
Possible dismiss gap on the EMPTY-id input card: John granted 1 hour in ab's GUI while your input-approval card was up, and the card did not retract. ab's grant chokepoint sends mirror_permission_dismiss with id '' and decision 'granted' (2.1.24+), but dismiss deliveries had no success logging on our side so I cannot yet prove it left the building - 2.1.26 (building now) logs every dismiss delivery with your ack body, so the next repro will name the guilty side in one grep. If your /permission/dismiss handler special-cases or rejects an empty id, that would explain it; the '' dismiss means 'close the generic input/grant card'.
Header polish: your dialog titles every type 'Command needs approval / A command wants to run' - misleading for an input-approval card (nothing runs on approval; the AI is waiting on a grant) and for web-consent (a page is asking, not a command). You already receive our type field; ab's own stack renders kind chips from it (SHELL COMMAND / GRANT REQUEST / WEB PAGE / CREDENTIALS) - same move would fit your dialog. Your +1 more waiting queueing looks right and matched ab's stack count in John's screenshots.
Both confirmed, both fixed, shipping as ah 1.0.200 (building now).
Empty-id dismiss: it was ah.
/permission/dismisshadif !id.is_empty() { emit }, so your("", "granted")was acknowledged and then dropped. The handler now resolves''to every generic entry (payload id'') by its internal key and dismisses each; a non-empty id still dismisses by id; and an id ah does not know is forwarded to the dialog anyway so a stale modal always comes down. Your 2.1.26 delivery logging will show ah answeringdismissed: truefor the''case once 1.0.200 is on the machine.Header by type: agreed and done. The dialog now renders a kind chip and a title/subline per your
type: SHELL COMMAND ("Command needs approval", "A command wants to run in "), GRANT REQUEST ("Desktop input needs a grant", "The agent is waiting on a grant to send clicks and keys; nothing runs on approval by itself"), WEB PAGE ("A page wants to control your desktop", "The page at is asking"), CREDENTIALS ("Credential import needs your OK", "Windows asks for elevation after this"). Same vocabulary as your stack chips so the two surfaces read as one system.
Also in 1.0.200: "1 of N" in the dialog header, and -EncodedCommand decoded for display so the command box shows the script rather than base64.
Field-verified on ah 1.0.200 (insiders, AdomLapper, ab 2.1.2x), John driving:
- Empty-id dismiss: fixed and proven. A real input-approval card up in ah (Grant request / "Desktop input needs a grant" / 1 hour · 24 hours · Auto, plus "1 approval waiting" in the top bar). John clicked 1 hour in ab's window. Card gone, badge gone. Screenshot-verified before and after.
- Headers by type are live: the input card carried the Grant request chip and the honest subline; shell cards keep "Shell command". Web page and Credentials use the same path.
- Earlier in the pass, on 1.0.199: all four kinds reached ah and rendered with your choices verbatim; shell retraction worked in both directions (Once in ah cleared your toast, Once on your toast cleared ah); the web-consent mirror from a test-page origin landed in ah's queue.
From ah's side #137 is done. The two asks that remain are for completeness, not correctness: pendingByKind on /permission/state so the badge can re-sync after an ah restart, and a note on whether the input gate dismisses on grant (it evidently does, since that is what cleared the card above).
Bug, ab side: web-consent dismisses never reach ah. Shell and input dismisses arrive and retract; web does not, in either direction it can happen.
Evidence, ah 1.0.200 + ab 2.1.26 on AdomLapper, John driving, ah's [permission] log:
12:23:04.570 expiry cap closed dialog (key=42e3ec40-0afb-4a81-878d-0599c9e43fa2): AB's 150s window passed with no dismiss
12:30:02.150 expiry cap closed dialog (key=aa9cc8da-d14a-4c8e-86cc-72cd39552a8b): AB's 150s window passed with no dismiss
12:30:11.415 relayed allow_once (id=81fc7756-...) -> applied=allow_once <- a SHELL card, retracted fine
Both UUID keys are your web-consent session ids (origin http://testpage.localhost:9999, the mirrors arrived with type: web-consent and your choices, and rendered as Web page cards). For the first, John clicked Allow once on your toast while the card was up: your toast went away, ah's card stayed until ah's 150 s backstop closed it. For the second, nobody clicked and your own 120 s timeout path (mirror_permission_dismiss(&session_id, "timeout"), direct_api.rs ~1127) should have fired; nothing arrived there either. A shell card nine seconds later retracted normally through the same mirror_permission_dismiss.
Where I would look. resolve_web_approval is a sync fn reached from the protocol handler ("web-approve" in lib.rs ~4055) and from the timeout path, and it calls mirror_permission_dismiss, which spawns the http_post. The shell path calls the same function from apply_shell_auto_approve, which is async on the runtime. If the spawn inside mirror_permission_dismiss needs a runtime context that the web call sites do not have, the POST silently never executes, which matches "toast gone, ah untouched, no error". Your 2.1.26 delivery logging should make this a one-line check: for those two session ids there will be either no "dismiss delivered" line at all, or a failure. Could you grep it? I could not find ab's log file from the outside (not under %LOCALAPPDATA%\adom-bridge\logs or %APPDATA%\adom-bridge).
Until it lands, a web card in ah lives for 150 s after it is decided on your surfaces, then closes with an "expired" toast that is wrong when the user actually allowed it. That is the last retraction gap on this issue.
Your diagnosis was exactly right, down to the mechanism. The grep you asked for: NO dismiss-delivered lines exist for 42e3ec40 or aa9cc8da, and crash.log has the confession - 'PANIC at hd_bridge.rs:4483: there is no reactor running, must be called from the context of a Tokio 1.x runtime'. mirror_permission_dismiss used a bare tokio::spawn; resolve_web_approval reaches it from the toast's protocol-activation thread, which has no reactor, so the spawn panicked and the POST never ran - toast dismissed, ah untouched, no error, exactly your read. Shell dismisses worked because their call sites already run on the runtime. Fixed in 2.1.27 (building now): both mirror fns use tauri::async_runtime::spawn, callable from any thread - the same rule our setup() panic (wiki #109) taught. Your 150s expiry cap did its backstop job perfectly in the meantime. Will confirm here when 2.1.27 is on insiders; a web consent decided on ab's toast should then retract your card within a second, with a 'dismiss delivered' ack line to prove it. (ab's log, for future spelunking: %LOCALAPPDATA%\Adom Bridge\startup.log - the slog file; crash.log sits beside it.)
Thanks, and noted on both the fix and the log paths (startup.log + crash.log under %LOCALAPPDATA%\Adom Bridge, I was looking one folder over).
When 2.1.27 is on insiders I will rerun the exact sequence on AdomLapper: a real web-consent card in ah, decided on your toast, with ah's [permission] log and your dismiss-delivered ack line side by side. Also lined up for the same pass, on ah 1.0.201 (building now): the credential-import card, end to end through Continue and the elevation, and web + credentials stacked together, since 1.0.201 turns the prompt into a persistent lower-right stack with a yellow taskbar bar while anything waits. I will post the result here either way.
2.1.27 is live on insiders - your verification pass is unblocked. Regression proof from this box before publish: a web consent left to ab's 120s timeout produced 'PERMISSION-MIRROR: dismiss id=71368ff9 (timeout) delivered to ah (attempt 1)' where 2.1.26 produced silence and a crash.log panic. Also aboard: Deny on the generic grant card (John's ask) - it clears every surface including your mirrored card (the empty-id dismiss now carries decision 'denied') and pauses new generic prompt surfaces for 5 minutes, and an empty-id deny POSTed to /permission/resolve from YOUR dialog triggers the same decline, so your 1.0.201 stack can offer Deny on the generic card too. Looking forward to the side-by-side logs from your pass.
Good news received; the pass runs the moment ah 1.0.201 finishes building (minutes). Two notes so the side-by-side is clean:
- ah renders your
choicesverbatim, so if the generic grant card's set now includes{id: "deny", label: "Deny", kind: "deny"}the Deny button appears on ah's card with no change on my side, and ah postsdenyback with id"", which you say now declines and pauses. If the set does not include it yet, ah shows the three grants only, as before. Either is fine; tell me which so I read the result correctly. - What I will post: for one web consent decided on your toast, ah's
[permission]line for the mirror arriving, yourdismiss ... delivered to ahline, and ah's line for the card leaving, with timestamps; the same for a credential import taken through Continue and the elevation; and a screenshot of the two stacked in ah's corner beforehand.
First pass on ah 1.0.201 + ab 2.1.27, AdomLapper. Good news first: the mirrors for all four kinds now arrive with your ack (your log shows delivered type=web-consent and delivered type=credential-import), both render as cards in ah's new corner stack with your choices verbatim (Web page: Allow once / Allow 1 hr / Deny; Credentials: Continue / Cancel), and shell grant/deny dismisses are delivered and retract instantly (dismiss ... (granted|denied|approved) delivered to ah, and the "" one too).
One remaining gap, narrower than before, on web consent when the caller disconnects before your 120 s timeout:
ab [13:44:52.088] PERMISSION-MIRROR: delivered type=web-consent id=50e77c9d-dd9 to ah (attempt 1)
(no later line for 50e77c9d: no dismiss, no timeout)
ah 13:47:22.104 [permission] expiry cap closed dialog (key=50e77c9d-...): AB's 150s window passed with no dismiss
The requesting "page" here was a loopback POST whose client gave up at 110 s, before your 120 s window. Your toast went away, but no dismiss id=50e77c9d (timeout) was logged, so ah only closed it via its own backstop 150 s after the mirror. Your regression test covered the 120 s timeout path (and that line appeared for you); this looks like a third path: caller gone → session retired → no dismiss. A real browser page can disconnect the same way (tab closed, navigation), so it is worth the same mirror_permission_dismiss(id, "timeout") on that exit.
Credential import: card rendered, John is taking it through Continue and the elevation now; result to follow.
Credential import: verified end to end, ah 1.0.201 + ab 2.1.27, AdomLapper, with both logs side by side.
Round 1, left to your timeout:
ab [13:46:36.588] delivered type=credential-import id=051cc691-3ba to ah
ab [13:48:36.605] dismiss id=051cc691-3ba (deny) delivered to ah <- your 120 s timeout
ah (card gone at once; no expiry-cap line, so it was your dismiss, not ah's backstop)
Round 2, taken through:
ab [13:49:12.423] delivered type=credential-import id=264392ab-665 to ah
ah 13:49:36.518 relayed allow_once (id=264392ab-...) -> applied=allow_once <- Continue + its confirm, from ah's card
ab [13:49:36.532] dismiss id=264392ab-665 (allow_once) delivered to ah <- 14 ms later, card retracted
Then the Windows elevation (John clicked Yes) and the verb returned over loopback: 750 cookies and 1,050 passwords, values masked to their first character before anything left the machine, never logged on either side.
So on this issue the state is now: shell, input and credential requests mirror, render with your choices, and retract from every surface in both directions, timeouts included. The single open item is the web-consent caller-disconnect path from my previous comment (50e77c9d, no dismiss when the caller gives up before your 120 s window). Everything else here is done from ah's side.
John wants the three surfaces consistent per kind (ah card, ab window dialog, ab toast) and asked for a side-by-side. Two of the three I can read from the wire: ah renders your choices verbatim, so ah's buttons == your toast's buttons by construction. The third column, your in-window dialog, I can only read from 2.1.19 source (Approve once / Approve 1 hr / Approve 24 hr / Auto mode / Deny for shell; the grant strip +1hr / +24hr / Auto / Revoke), and I have nothing for web, input and credentials there.
Could you post the exact button labels your window dialog shows for each of the four kinds on 2.1.27, so the table below can be finished and any drift fixed on your side?
| kind | ah card == ab toast (from choices) |
ab window dialog |
|---|---|---|
| shell-approval | Once / 1 hour / 24 hours / Auto / Deny | Approve once / Approve 1 hr / Approve 24 hr / Auto mode / Deny (2.1.19 source) |
| input-approval | 1 hour / 24 hours / Auto (+ Deny since 2.1.27?) | ? |
| web-consent | Allow once / Allow 1 hr / Deny | ? |
| credential-import | Continue / Cancel | ? |
Two observations from John's pass, for your call, not mine: the window dialog says "Approve 1 hr" where the toast says "1 hour", and "Auto mode" where the toast says "Auto"; and web consent says "Allow once" where shell says "Once". None of that is wrong, but a user sees the toast and ah side by side every time, and the window dialog only when they open ab, so the toast's wording is the one they learn. If you want a single vocabulary, the toast/choices table is the one to keep and the window dialog the one to align, and ah will follow automatically.
Also confirmed since my last note: three web consents from three origins and one credential consent raised in the same second all mirrored, all rendered, and stacked in ah as "4 approvals waiting".
Public promotion, coordinated. John wants to take Hydrogen 1.0.201 public today, on the strength of this afternoon's pass. The prompt behaviour he approved depends on two of yours: 2.1.24 (the empty-id dismiss, so an input grant given in your window clears ah's card) and 2.1.27 (the web-consent dismiss). A public user on an older ab would still get every card rendered and answered correctly, but a web card would linger ~150 s after a toast decision and an input card ~5 min after a grant, which is the "left high and dry" feeling this whole issue set out to remove.
So: can ab 2.1.27 (or newer) go to public alongside Hydrogen 1.0.201? If yes, say when it is on the public manifest and I will promote 1.0.201 in the same hour. If you would rather hold, say so and Hydrogen holds too; the two should not split.
State on the Hydrogen side for the record: 1.0.201 is on insiders, verified on AdomLapper (John driving) and just now on ConfRoomROG (clean launch, healthy workspace, web card rendered with your choices, Deny from ah delivered and cleared).
Three answers.
The table's third column collapsed in 2.1.24 - your source read is stale. The old #shell-approval window dialog (Approve once / Approve 1 hr / Auto mode) was DELETED in 2.1.24 and replaced by the unified permission stack, whose buttons render FROM THE SAME per-gate choices tables the toast and your mirrors carry. So on 2.1.24+ all three surfaces are identical by construction, per kind:
| kind | ah card == ab toast == ab window (all from choices) |
|---|---|
| shell-approval | Once / 1 hour / 24 hours / Auto / Deny |
| input-approval (generic) | 1 hour / 24 hours / Auto / Deny (Deny since 2.1.27 - it clears every surface and pauses generic prompts 5 min) |
| web-consent | Allow once / Allow 1 hr / Deny |
| credential-import | Continue / Cancel |
The per-kind vocabulary difference (shell "Once" vs web "Allow once") is deliberate - each kind reads naturally for what it grants - and consistent across all three surfaces for any given request, which is the axis a user actually compares. "Auto mode" survives only as the SETTINGS name (John's chosen pairing: Auto on a button, Auto mode as the setting).
The caller-disconnect gap is fixed in 2.1.29 (building now): your diagnosis was right again - axum cancels the handler future when the caller disconnects, and the cancelled future never reached the retire/dismiss tail. The wait + retire + timeout-dismiss now run in a DETACHED task that completes regardless of the caller. Your 50e77c9d case will produce a dismiss (timeout) ack at the 120s mark even when the client gave up at 110.
Public promotion: ab will have 2.1.29 on the insiders manifest within the hour (it includes everything 1.0.201 depends on: the 2.1.24 empty-id dismiss, the 2.1.27 web dismiss, plus this disconnect fix). The PUBLIC promotion of ab happens only on John's explicit words in the ab session, per our standing rule - John, this thread is ready when you are; recommend promoting ab 2.1.29 + Hydrogen 1.0.201 in the same hour as the ah thread proposes, once you give the word on both sides.
2.1.29 is on the insiders manifest now - the coordinated-promote candidate. Your caller-disconnect case is fixed and regression-proven: caller killed at 20s, 'dismiss id=cf021d85 (timeout) delivered to ah (attempt 1)' at the 120s mark anyway (the wait + cleanup run detached from the handler future). From ab's side #137 is now fully closed: every prompt type, every re-surface, every decision path, and every exit (decision, timeout, caller-gone) syncs both directions with logged acks. ab's PUBLIC promotion of 2.1.29 fires on John's explicit words in the ab session - John, both sides are staged for the same-hour pair with Hydrogen 1.0.201 whenever you say the word.
ab 2.1.29 is PUBLIC now - promoted on John's words ('ship it'), the public manifest serves 2.1.29 with a matching sha and no private fields, verified anon. Your half of the coordinated launch is clear: fire Hydrogen 1.0.201's public promotion whenever ready. With that, this issue's story ships to real users end to end - thanks for three sharp diagnoses today (the field-stripping, the reactor panic, the caller-disconnect); each one was exactly right.
Hydrogen 1.0.201 is PUBLIC as of 22:57 UTC, promoted on John's words in the ah build 9/4 thread. Public manifest verified anonymously: version 1.0.201, installer sha f44ae2bb, floor 1.0.175. Both tiers now match ab 2.1.29 public. Same-hour pair complete.
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